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Apologetics to the Glory of God: An IntroductionAuthor: John M. Frame
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5 out of 5 stars Great Intro!   June 11, 2007
A. Blake White (Louisville, KY)
2 out of 2 found this review helpful

Frame is professor of systematic theology and philosophy at RTS. He is quickly becoming one of my favorite contemporary theologians. He begins the book by making it clear that he is a follower of Cornelius Van Til (presuppositional), but has some questions concerning the consistency of Vant Til's thought in places. He defines apologetics as "the discipline that teaches Christians how to give a reason for their hope" (1). Frame is famous for his 'multiperspectivalism' and is no different in this little book. He distinguishes apologetics as proof, defense, and offense. He also argues biblically that there is no neutrality with the non-Christian (contra classical apologetics). Believers must always presuppose God and his truth in every aspect of our lives. Revelation must govern apologetics. This fact seems obvious enough but you'd be surprised at the way some view apologetics. Frame also establishes the fact that unbelievers know God, but suppress the truth (Rom 1:21). He lists a few different values of apologetics. This is already getting long, so I must skip the details.
In chapter 2, Frame lays out the message of the apologist. He breaks it up into two sections: Christianity as a philosophy, and good news. The section on philosophy was great! This chapter contained a lot of excellent details about the significance of the Christian worldview, but I cannot take the time to reproduce them here. He basically argues that the Christian worldview is the alternative to the conventional wisdom of the day.
Chapter 3 consists of methodological considerations for the task of apologetics. Here he introduces the reader to the famous transcendental argument (basically arguing that without God, nothing is possible or rational). This method is very helpful, for by using it, the apologist can basically start from anywhere since all facts only make sense with the existence of an absolute personality. Frame parts ways with Van Til here though as he believes it needs supplementation while Van Til thought the TA was sufficient in itself. The point of contact with the non-believer is their knowledge of God. Presuppositional apologetics would not exist without Romans 1.
Chapter 4 is an assessment and reworking of the traditional arguments for God's existence (teleological, moral, cosmological, ontological), with an emphasis on objective moral values. (apologetics as proof).
Chapter 5 continues with proof focusing on proving the gospel. Here Frame lays out Scripture's doctrine of Scripture, with an excursus on modern biblical criticism.
Chapter 6 & 7 are apologetics as defense. These two chapters cover the problem of evil, and are quite helpful. Chapter 6 lays down some groundwork and evaluates several options for answering the problem, and their shortcomings. In Chapter 7, he seeks to answer it by appealing to the greater good argument redefined theocentrically. Frame does allow for a sense of mystery though.
Chapter 8 is apologetics as offense, attacking unbelief, aiming at atheism and idolatry. Both are essentially an attempt to escape responsibility. Frame closes out the book with a chapter called 'Talking to a Stranger' where John and Al have a conversation in a plane in which John uses the presuppositional method to share the gospel with Al. This is obviously the lightest chapter in the book and is helpful in seeing the method fleshed out. There are also two appendices. One reviewing a book by Sproul/Gerstner/Lindsley called 'Classical Apologetics' in which they go after Van Til's method. Turns out, their book is filled with misunderstanding and misrepresentation. The last appendix in a response to Frame from Jay Adams concerning the problem of evil. Adams just appeals to Rom 9.17 and says it is settled. Frame does not think its that easy.



5 out of 5 stars The First Book You Should Read On Apologetics   October 5, 2008
Jacob Hantla (Chandler, AZ United States)
1 out of 1 found this review helpful

I have read almost a dozen apologetics texts over the last year, and in my estimation, Apologetics for the Glory of God by John Frame should be the first book you read on the subject. Let John Frame guide you as you learn the particulars of apologetic argument from other apologists. John Frame describes what principles should be guiding the use of any evidence or line of reasoning as the apologist seeks to reason with the nonbelieving skeptic. Frame's apologetics would rightly be characterized as presuppositional in nature; he is not shy to be aligned with Cornelius Van Til. However, for those who think that a presuppositional apologetic eschews evidence, you will be pleasantly surprised. I recommend that any reader of Apologetics for the Glory of God get a copy of Frame's masterpiece The Doctrine of the Knowledge of God (A Theology of Lordship) as frequent reference is made to it and you will find ideas hinted at fully expounded in that larger volume. All of Frame's thinking is influenced by his tri-perspectival way of looking at things (which DKG goes into much detail), where he realizes the helpfulness of considering truth from different angles. His apologetics is no different; the perspectives into which he breaks the apologetic task (and the chapters of the book) are:
Apologetics as Proof
Apologetics as Defense
Apologetics as Offense

Classical apologists seek to find commonground between the believer and the nonbeliever and work from there to convince the skeptic of the plausibility of existence of the God of the Bible; therefore, the classical apologist argues, the Bible is not the appropriate place to start in apologetic encounters. The presuppositionalist argues on the other hand, that the unbeliever is acting in rebellion to God as manifested by his desire to think autonomously and place himself as the ultimate criterion of truth. The apologist should not encourage this thinking; neither should the apologist adopt it. The skeptics basic heart commitment is that Jesus is not Lord; the apologists basic heart commitment is that Jesus is Lord. "Our argument must be an exhibit of that knowledge, that wisdom, which is based on the 'fear of the Lord,' not an exhibition of unbelieving foolishness. Therefore apologetic argument is no more neutral than any other human activity. In apologetic argument, as in everything else we do, we must presuppose the truth of God's Word....Even if neutrality were possible, that route would be forbidden to us" (p. 9).

There is no common ground apart from mutual knowledge of God of which Romans 1:19ff way. The thing that the apologist is most sure is true is that which God has told him in the Bible. Therefore, the apologists argument will be based on Scripture. Frame writes, "The preacher-apologist is to present the word...to expound it, to apply it to his hearers, to display its beauty, its truth, its rationality. [He] seeks to combat the unbeliever's false impressions and present to him the word as it really is. It is to this testimony that the Spirit also bears witness" (p. 17). This does not mean, however, that natural evidences or rational argumentation are out of line, just that they must be submitted to Scripture, "The obedient Christian apologist will show the unbeliever the various ways in which nature reveals God, without claiming neutrality and without allowing the use of non-Christian criteria of truth" (p. 25). The main attack against this line of reasoning is that it is circular; the teachings of the Bible are true because the Bible is true. We must recognize the truth of this statement but recognize that every system of thought is circular when it seeks to defend its ultimate presupposition: the Bible, reason/logic, sense-experience, relativism, or otherwise.

Frame spends the rest of the book working his presuppositional line of reasoning out as it relates to proving Christianity to be true, defending Christianity's truth, and attacking the irrationality of all other belief systems. Frame includes very little actual argumentation, with the exception of the problem of evil in the world. He admits this. His goal in this book is to provide the framework into which all other arguments or lines of reasoning will fit, and he does so masterfully. It is for this reason that I recommend that you read Frame before any other apologists, because fit into this framework the apologist can use any true line of reasoning or evidences (whether it comes from a presuppositionalist or not) and use it in a way that recognizes Jesus and not man as Lord.

Finally, the book ends with an exceptional transcript from a faux dialogue between Frame and a man on an airplane where Frame demonstrates how each item he has discussed throughout the book might work itself out in actual apologetic discussion with a real life person.

I do not recommend that this is the only apologetics book you read, but I do recommend that it is the first. When you are finished, I recommend you move on to Busenitz's Reasons We Believe: 50 Lines of Evidence That Confirm the Christian Faith and/or Pratt's Every Thought Captive: A Study Manual for the Defense of Christian Truth.



5 out of 5 stars Very Good Introduction...   December 10, 2008
Contend Earnestly
1 out of 1 found this review helpful

This is the first book of John Frame's that I have read and I will have to say that I thoroughly enjoyed it. It is very well done and covers a lot of ground in a mere 250 pages. Although you can tell that Frame and Schaeffer have a lot in common, the way that they write is thoroughly different. Schaeffer focuses in on showing the historical understanding of thought and then showing the holes and practice of those in the past, while Frame skips all that and goes more general in thought and shows the holes in the thoughts of the atheist, the agnostic and the practical atheist. The former is one who says there is a god but lives like there is none.

I haven't read much of Van Til, but what I have read, I figured that Frame would be a lot like him and give him much praise. While I didn't find the direct opposite in Frame, Frame was very honest when he found Van Til to be lacking and where he found him to be strong. Van Til was known to stay mainly on the defensive and poking holes in the atheist's arguments, but rarely, if ever, went offensive with the atheist. Frame showed both, like Schaeffer did.

Frame's book is technical in parts but also very readable and very enjoyable. He opens up with showing the basics of apologetics and then he goes into showing what the apologist must show while writing or speaking to others. He, like Schaeffer and many others, points to the metaphysical (the study of being), epistimology (the study of knowledge) and ethics.

After giving this lengthy defense, he then shows the gospel as proof and then gives a lengthy answer to the problem of evil. Through this answer he shows that the previous answers to evil, although sometimes helpful, don't really give the final or most thorough answers in of themselves. What he does show is that they almost all have some of the answer, but not the complete answer to the problem of evil. I do like his honest answer in the end to evil though. He simply says that we can give some explanation to evil, but we really don't know the entirety of the answer of why there is evil.

After this section, the final section is devoted to showing why the gospel is true and he does so in a way that I have yet to see. He biblically walks one through the entirety of the Bible to show the problem of man and sin and the redemption of man through Christ. Through this he also dismantles other religions in a few sentences as though they were a mere sidebar to the discussion.

The final chapter is a mock conversation to guide the reader. Admittedly, Frame says this conversation is a bit simplistic and "perfect" in responses from both the defender of the gospel and the opposer. What I found to be helpful in this discussion is that it really served as a conclusion and recap to the entirety of the book.

I truly enjoyed this book and will be one that I continually go to, to aid in my discussions with others that oppose the faith. I will be now picking up some more Frame books to add to my collection and will put him in the top scholars of our era in regards to presuppositional apologetics. I highy recommend this book to any who are looking to answer the tough questions posed by the atheist or seekers of our Saviour.



4 out of 5 stars Good intro to Vantillian presuppositionalism   May 10, 2000
Daniel R. Streett (Dallas, TX)
35 out of 40 found this review helpful

Frame, professor of theology and apologetics at Westminster Theological Seminary in Escondido, California presents an introduction to apologetics from a Reformed presuppositionalism perspective. He begins by laying out his basic presuppositional method, defending it against the charges of circularity and question-begging, demonstrating its consistency with Scripture and the Reformation tradition, and portraying it as the only apologetic method consonant with the central Christian doctrines of sovereignty and Sola Scriptura. Everyone, he avers, reasons circularly as a result of being the knowing subject and therefore lacking neutrality. He then outlines the general message of the apologist, i.e. the faith which the apologist intends to defend - the absolute personality, transcendence, and sovereignty of the Christian God, including his Lordship over epistemology and ethics.

Frame then turns to examine the concepts of faith, evidence, certainty, common ground, and proof, advocating a "presuppositionalism of the heart." He seeks a rapprochement between evidentialism and presuppositionalism, arguing that evidences have a significant role to play in apologetics, though never as an appeal to autonomous human reasoning. In this vein, he presents proofs for the existence of God, including the moral, epistemological, teleological, ontological, and cosmological arguments. Some of these, he notes, are more persuasive than others, but all are valid and convincing only to someone who shares Christian values - they would never persuade a convinced nihilist (though nihilists can never even approach consistency in their lifestyle).

All of the arguments for God, Frame shows, are ultimately presuppositional. They have their limitations, though, in that they can never prove the entirety of the Scriptures or all the attributes of the Christian God. To prove the details of the Christian faith, Frame points out the uniqueness of the Bible. It alone accords with the conclusions of the arguments for God presented earlier. Destructive Biblical criticism, a major opponent of Scriptural inspiration, is a failed and overly skeptical enterprise that, if taken to its logical conclusion, would leave us totally devoid of any reliable history. Scripture is its own witness and must be accepted as such.

Of all the arguments against the Christian faith, none has been more destructive than the argument from evil. Frame thus devotes two chapters to finding a solution, although he ultimately appeals to mystery. He first explores several dead-end defenses and theodicies. Then, he summarizes a Biblical response to the problem of evil. From Christian presuppositions, he asserts, the problem of evil is not as daunting as it might seem at the outset.

Frame concludes his book with a fictitious account of a conversation between an apologist and an unbeliever. Two appendices include a review and response to Classical Apologetics by Sproul, Lindsley, and Gerstner, and a response by Jay Adams to Frame's critique of his theodicy in The Grand Demonstration.

Analysis

Apologetics to the Glory of God is an important work for understanding presuppositionalism, especially of the Vantillian variety. It contains numerous insights and deserves a serious reading by all who are interested in the defense of the faith. Some serious shortcomings, though, detract from the overall value of the work. Most stem from Frame's continued adherence to the teachings of his mentor - Cornelius Van Til - although Frame has modified and tempered much of Van Til's thought. Van Til and Frame's problems come because they are not presuppositional enough in their thinking. They still cling to Enlightenment ideals of certainty and proof, though they sometimes change the definitions of these words. Much of the controversy surrounding Van Til's teachings centers on this tendency. It certainly does not lend itself to clarity. Frame and Van Til fail to understand the nature of presuppositions. Throughout his book, Frame impugns the notion of "blind faith," but how else can presuppositions be chosen? The unprovable nature of starting points precludes any proof or certainty of the truth of the Scriptures. Certainty and proof exist only intrasystematically. We can never be certain of our axioms, but if we are to be certain of anything, we must posit axioms.

Frame also fails in his response to the problem of evil. While he is to be applauded for his censure of Plantinga and other Arminian theodicists who compromise central tenets of Biblical Christianity, his attacks on Gordon Clark and Jay Adams are neither well-reasoned nor convincing. Adams' response in Appendix II is cogent and persuasive. His Grand Demonstration and Clark's Religion, Reason, and Revelation are must reading for anyone interested in a theodicy that avoids the recourse to mystery, but simultaneously maintains the Biblical emphasis on the absolute sovereignty of God.

Frame's book is, in the final analysis, a valuable contribution to the evidentialist vs. presuppositionalist debate and would serve as a fine introduction to someone seeking insight into the Vantillian tradition.


4 out of 5 stars New to Apologetics   July 29, 2006
Anchored Soul (New Jersey)
8 out of 8 found this review helpful

My motivation for buying this book was to learn how to be a more effective evangelist, and while my need was met, it was at times a bit difficult to translate Frame's information into practical, everyday methods. It answered my questions about how to converse with unbelievers without assuming a position of neutrality. It also brought apologetics out of the academy and back into "the highways and by-ways". I believe the author wanted to address two audiences at the same time, which led to a careful blending of technical philosophy and Sunday school Scripture.

Why I would recommend this book: Christ is Lord and is placed at the center of the apologetics instead of man. Even as an academically untrained Christian, I saw the need for the church to quit putting man at the center of everything and put Christ and His Word back on the throne. It may be harder to take the faith approach because it strips us of the ability to woo people with wise and persuasive words, and returns us to a place where we trust God to demonstrate His power in genuine heart conversion.


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